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		By: Yossi		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2008/11/30/iskander-the-giraffe/#comment-659</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KBM&lt;/span&gt; didn&#8217;t answer.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I have a new theory. The hybrid Russian/Arabic name  may have been chosen as a political gesture to the Muslim large minority. Russia takes care not to alienate its Muslims and an advanced weapon system  with an Arabic name may give them pride and sense of belonging.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The weak point of this theory is of course its identification of Islam and Arabic culture.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><span class="caps">KBM</span> didn&#8217;t answer.</p>
<p>I have a new theory. The hybrid Russian/Arabic name  may have been chosen as a political gesture to the Muslim large minority. Russia takes care not to alienate its Muslims and an advanced weapon system  with an Arabic name may give them pride and sense of belonging.</p>
<p>The weak point of this theory is of course its identification of Islam and Arabic culture.</p>
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		By: Yossi		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2008/11/30/iskander-the-giraffe/#comment-658</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;AA, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the end of our saga.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Let&#8217;s assume the missile name is after the Persian version of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alexander the Great&lt;/a&gt;  . This Greek has crushed the Persian empire. Of course they were not Muslims then but I guess he is not a very popular figure in Iran. What is the political wisdom of calling a Russian missile after an historical enemy of Iran, using the Persian version of his name? Maybe &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KBM&lt;/span&gt; forgot their history or were just not sufficiently politically sensitive so now they try to cover their mistake?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;By the way, I sent a letter to &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KBM&lt;/span&gt; but they didn&#8217;t answer, yet.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>AA, I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the end of our saga.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume the missile name is after the Persian version of  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great" rel="nofollow">Alexander the Great</a>  . This Greek has crushed the Persian empire. Of course they were not Muslims then but I guess he is not a very popular figure in Iran. What is the political wisdom of calling a Russian missile after an historical enemy of Iran, using the Persian version of his name? Maybe <span class="caps">KBM</span> forgot their history or were just not sufficiently politically sensitive so now they try to cover their mistake?</p>
<p>By the way, I sent a letter to <span class="caps">KBM</span> but they didn&#8217;t answer, yet.</p>
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		By: AA		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2008/11/30/iskander-the-giraffe/#comment-657</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;An answer to your prayers? &lt;a href=&quot;http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/4-2008/item1/article1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Moscow Defense Brief&lt;/a&gt; says:&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&#8220;The new system was named Iskander, after the Persian name for Alexander the Great&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Anya, thanks for the link!&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>An answer to your prayers? <a href="http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/4-2008/item1/article1/" rel="nofollow">The Moscow Defense Brief</a> says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The new system was named Iskander, after the Persian name for Alexander the Great&#8221; </p>
<p>Anya, thanks for the link!</p>
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		By: Yossi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia says the Iskander is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iskander&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;manufactured&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_Mashynostroyeniya&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;designed&lt;/a&gt; by the Russian &#8220;KB Mashinostroyeniya&#8221; (&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KBM&lt;/span&gt;), among many other interesting weapon systems.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KBM&lt;/span&gt; have an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kbm.ru/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;official website&lt;/a&gt;  and an email address:  &#8220;kbm@kolomna.ru&#8221;.  The website is bi-lingual, Russian and English, you just click on the small flag at upper right to switch languages.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I guess the best way to solve our name mystery is to write them a letter and ask.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Wikipedia says the Iskander is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iskander" rel="nofollow">manufactured</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KB_Mashynostroyeniya" rel="nofollow">designed</a> by the Russian &#8220;KB Mashinostroyeniya&#8221; (<span class="caps">KBM</span>), among many other interesting weapon systems.</p>
<p><span class="caps">KBM</span> have an <a href="http://www.kbm.ru/" rel="nofollow">official website</a>  and an email address:  &#8220;kbm@kolomna.ru&#8221;.  The website is bi-lingual, Russian and English, you just click on the small flag at upper right to switch languages.</p>
<p>I guess the best way to solve our name mystery is to write them a letter and ask.</p>
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		By: Yossi, Jerusalem		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2008/11/30/iskander-the-giraffe/#comment-655</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;Anya, thanks!&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I made a little web search and it seems that &#8220;Iskander&#8221; is the Arabic form of the name &#8220;Alexander&#8221;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Alexander the great is a well known historical figure who became a legendary military hero in Europe and Asia. It makes sense that such a name will be used for an exceptional weapon system but why choose the Arabic form? The missile is certainly not intended to be used only by Arabs. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;An &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Alexander&#038;searchmode=none&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;etymological dictionary&lt;/a&gt;  says it means &#8220;defender of men&#8221;, so maybe the Russians wanted to emphasize it would be used for defense, not offense. &#8220;Defender of men&#8221; reminds me of old Communist terminology, something like &#8220;the people defender&#8221; but I&#8217;m probably just imagining this.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Anya, thanks!</p>
<p>I made a little web search and it seems that &#8220;Iskander&#8221; is the Arabic form of the name &#8220;Alexander&#8221;.</p>
<p>Alexander the great is a well known historical figure who became a legendary military hero in Europe and Asia. It makes sense that such a name will be used for an exceptional weapon system but why choose the Arabic form? The missile is certainly not intended to be used only by Arabs. </p>
<p>An <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Alexander&#038;searchmode=none" rel="nofollow">etymological dictionary</a>  says it means &#8220;defender of men&#8221;, so maybe the Russians wanted to emphasize it would be used for defense, not offense. &#8220;Defender of men&#8221; reminds me of old Communist terminology, something like &#8220;the people defender&#8221; but I&#8217;m probably just imagining this.</p>
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		By: Anya		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comment, Yossi. Regarding Alexander, I believe you are right, though I am not quite sure why the name was picked. (Tochka and Oka might be easier to explain.) :)&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Thanks for the comment, Yossi. Regarding Alexander, I believe you are right, though I am not quite sure why the name was picked. (Tochka and Oka might be easier to explain.) 🙂</p>
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		By: Yossi, Jerusalem		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[	&lt;p&gt;Beautiful animals but I&#8217;m afraid the place is too small for them.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;By the way, Iskander is a nice name with an exotic oriental sound. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but isn&#8217;t it just the name &#8220;Alexander&#8221; in some eastern language?&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Beautiful animals but I&#8217;m afraid the place is too small for them.</p>
<p>By the way, Iskander is a nice name with an exotic oriental sound. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but isn&#8217;t it just the name &#8220;Alexander&#8221; in some eastern language?</p>
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