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		By: bongdongs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Whatever be the pro-and-con&#8217;s of this deal, the volume and the virulence of false propoganda unleashed by the non-proliferation lobby against India (eg. David Albright) was in itself an eyeopener to many Indian&#8217;s like myself.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The precceding article on this blog is a fine example of such &#8220;research&#8221;.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever be the pro-and-con&#8217;s of this deal, the volume and the virulence of false propoganda unleashed by the non-proliferation lobby against India (eg. David Albright) was in itself an eyeopener to many Indian&#8217;s like myself.</p>
<p>The precceding article on this blog is a fine example of such &#8220;research&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Akash		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/11/16/npt-wreckage/#comment-390</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Abcd wrote:I wonder if they will cry â€œhypocrisyâ€ when Pakistan and China collude to protect Pakistanâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s â€œsecurityâ€?â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”-&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;And what makes you think China and Pak are not colluding as is, despite the fervent hope of many NPA advocates (alas, if wishes were reality!) that China is abiding, lock, stock and barrel by its NPT obligations?&lt;br /&gt;India finally went NWS in 1998, when it became clear to the Indian strategic community that Pak had operationalized its Ns and tested a missile which was able to hit the hitherto protected Indian south. Prior to that, way back from the 80â€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s, Indian newspapers were hollering about the Khan proliferation network and its ties to Beijing and Pyongyang. All too predictably, they were written off as Indian scaremongering with condescending quips about- â€œoh those Indians and their loathing for the poor Pakistanisâ€ and the like. Of course, come issues of Khans collusion with folks to target the west after 9/11, and the tune changed rather predictably. Now it was evil Khan and the threat to peace (sic.). Face it, as far as the treatment of India has been concerned, there has been a fair amount of hypocrisy (yes, the H word), when it comes to NPA advocates. I am not being polemical- merely pointing out the facts. If India were proliferating to NK or Iran or Libya, then I would seriously consider statements on India being a proliferation hazard. But the facts are that it hasnt, nor has it been pursuing terror as an instrument of state policy (a laâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> the Pak. ISI in India and Afghanistan), with its nuclear â€œmuscleâ€ as some sort of negotiating point, each time its antics become too odious to be ignored. &lt;br /&gt;Now Messrs. Albright and co can come up with all the specious excuses they want to paint India as the big bad wolf of proliferation (including that rather ridiculous bit on publically available tender documents earlier being a scoop. Daniel Craig, move over!), but the reality is that the NPA group appears to have little to no issues in dealing with a totalitarian state that has constantly mocked the NPT, in terms of its actions via arming Pak. in order to contain its Asian rival, and then watched as that latter country became the centerpiece of a global walmart for N tech.. All this continued till the events of 9/11 drew sharp attention to security issues facing the west, but sorry- India has been facing all that for donkeys years (please google for the Mumbai blasts) and has to take certain steps to safeguard &lt;strong&gt;its&lt;/strong&gt; security. Its pretty straight forward. India wanted a gas deal with Iran for energy security- the US had New Delhi vote against Iran at the UN for this N deal and scupper it. Now the N deal constitutes a â€œproliferation hazardâ€. Ok, so what is India supposed to do now? Oh wait, weâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />ll strike deals with Iran again and give them billions for oil and gas (because we must) and of course, that means more Kornets and Metis-M ATGMs for use by Hezbollah. Isnt the world such a nice place? OTOH, please do continue asking a secular democracy to not pursue assured energy supply for its gorwing economy and then wonder, dang- what if all those poor people whose aspirations the GOI has not been able to meet, what if they become a source of regional inStability? Cant get any worse than the current set-up, right with another 300 Million anti-western extremists?&lt;br /&gt;Please do think- you cant have your cake and eat it too. With or without the US, India is on its way to power status- with this deal, at least a sort of alliance shall emerge which will ensure that the US has some stake in Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s path and the choices it makes and that there is indeed a reasonably democratic state amongst a plethora of failed ones in the region.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abcd wrote:I wonder if they will cry â€œhypocrisyâ€ when Pakistan and China collude to protect Pakistanâ€™s â€œsecurityâ€?â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”-</p>
<p>And what makes you think China and Pak are not colluding as is, despite the fervent hope of many NPA advocates (alas, if wishes were reality!) that China is abiding, lock, stock and barrel by its NPT obligations?<br />India finally went NWS in 1998, when it became clear to the Indian strategic community that Pak had operationalized its Ns and tested a missile which was able to hit the hitherto protected Indian south. Prior to that, way back from the 80â€™s, Indian newspapers were hollering about the Khan proliferation network and its ties to Beijing and Pyongyang. All too predictably, they were written off as Indian scaremongering with condescending quips about- â€œoh those Indians and their loathing for the poor Pakistanisâ€ and the like. Of course, come issues of Khans collusion with folks to target the west after 9/11, and the tune changed rather predictably. Now it was evil Khan and the threat to peace (sic.). Face it, as far as the treatment of India has been concerned, there has been a fair amount of hypocrisy (yes, the H word), when it comes to NPA advocates. I am not being polemical- merely pointing out the facts. If India were proliferating to NK or Iran or Libya, then I would seriously consider statements on India being a proliferation hazard. But the facts are that it hasnt, nor has it been pursuing terror as an instrument of state policy (a laâ€™ the Pak. ISI in India and Afghanistan), with its nuclear â€œmuscleâ€ as some sort of negotiating point, each time its antics become too odious to be ignored. <br />Now Messrs. Albright and co can come up with all the specious excuses they want to paint India as the big bad wolf of proliferation (including that rather ridiculous bit on publically available tender documents earlier being a scoop. Daniel Craig, move over!), but the reality is that the NPA group appears to have little to no issues in dealing with a totalitarian state that has constantly mocked the NPT, in terms of its actions via arming Pak. in order to contain its Asian rival, and then watched as that latter country became the centerpiece of a global walmart for N tech.. All this continued till the events of 9/11 drew sharp attention to security issues facing the west, but sorry- India has been facing all that for donkeys years (please google for the Mumbai blasts) and has to take certain steps to safeguard <strong>its</strong> security. Its pretty straight forward. India wanted a gas deal with Iran for energy security- the US had New Delhi vote against Iran at the UN for this N deal and scupper it. Now the N deal constitutes a â€œproliferation hazardâ€. Ok, so what is India supposed to do now? Oh wait, weâ€™ll strike deals with Iran again and give them billions for oil and gas (because we must) and of course, that means more Kornets and Metis-M ATGMs for use by Hezbollah. Isnt the world such a nice place? OTOH, please do continue asking a secular democracy to not pursue assured energy supply for its gorwing economy and then wonder, dang- what if all those poor people whose aspirations the GOI has not been able to meet, what if they become a source of regional inStability? Cant get any worse than the current set-up, right with another 300 Million anti-western extremists?<br />Please do think- you cant have your cake and eat it too. With or without the US, India is on its way to power status- with this deal, at least a sort of alliance shall emerge which will ensure that the US has some stake in Indiaâ€™s path and the choices it makes and that there is indeed a reasonably democratic state amongst a plethora of failed ones in the region.</p>
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		By: Grumpy Physicist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Well, it would be rather neat if India could get the thorium fuel cycle working. But I have this feeling (based on the cross-sections) that itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s impractical. Still, it may be worth a try, and Iâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />m sure theyâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />re capable of giving it a good solid try. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;But techno-geekism aside, I find it hard to think of India as a â€œthreatâ€, either of agression or proliferating to other countries. The problem with turning a blind eye to Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s nuclear program is one of inconsistency (and, arguably, hypocrisy) when one has to deal with other countries which one really, really does not want to have the bomb.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it would be rather neat if India could get the thorium fuel cycle working. But I have this feeling (based on the cross-sections) that itâ€™s impractical. Still, it may be worth a try, and Iâ€™m sure theyâ€™re capable of giving it a good solid try. </p>
<p>But techno-geekism aside, I find it hard to think of India as a â€œthreatâ€, either of agression or proliferating to other countries. The problem with turning a blind eye to Indiaâ€™s nuclear program is one of inconsistency (and, arguably, hypocrisy) when one has to deal with other countries which one really, really does not want to have the bomb.</p>
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		By: abcd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;efgh, &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;You are correct in pointing out to me that the US-India deal is about â€œdiversifying Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s energy resources.â€ The point is that the deal could potentially free up Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s resources used to produce nuclear weapons. Surely one would want to factor this in to their assesment as to whether or not the deal is worth it. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;And precisely what does â€œCleaning up the terrosist cesspools in Pakistan is a separate long term task that will involve most NATO countries as a result of Afghanistan.â€ mean? Pakistanâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s security is viewed in the context of both the domestic (an Islamist coup) and the existential (Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s nuclear arsenal). Anything that increases the threat of the second is likely to figure prominently in the reconfiguration of Pakistanâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s security posture; and if the past is any guide, it is likely to do so while having its own domestic reverberations.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Finally, I would hope that one could think of better ways to â€œclean up terrorist cesspools in Pakistanâ€ without the assistance of NATO. Pakistan wonâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t even allow U.S. troops on its soil so I wouldnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t be holding my breath on the boys from Brussels touching down anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>efgh, </p>
<p>You are correct in pointing out to me that the US-India deal is about â€œdiversifying Indiaâ€™s energy resources.â€ The point is that the deal could potentially free up Indiaâ€™s resources used to produce nuclear weapons. Surely one would want to factor this in to their assesment as to whether or not the deal is worth it. </p>
<p>And precisely what does â€œCleaning up the terrosist cesspools in Pakistan is a separate long term task that will involve most NATO countries as a result of Afghanistan.â€ mean? Pakistanâ€™s security is viewed in the context of both the domestic (an Islamist coup) and the existential (Indiaâ€™s nuclear arsenal). Anything that increases the threat of the second is likely to figure prominently in the reconfiguration of Pakistanâ€™s security posture; and if the past is any guide, it is likely to do so while having its own domestic reverberations.</p>
<p>Finally, I would hope that one could think of better ways to â€œclean up terrorist cesspools in Pakistanâ€ without the assistance of NATO. Pakistan wonâ€™t even allow U.S. troops on its soil so I wouldnâ€™t be holding my breath on the boys from Brussels touching down anytime soon.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;abcd,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;You are making a leap of imagination. The US-India deal is about diversifying Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s energy sources.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Cleaning up the terrosist cesspools in Pakistan is a separate long term task that will involve most NATO countries as a result of Afghanistan.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abcd,</p>
<p>You are making a leap of imagination. The US-India deal is about diversifying Indiaâ€™s energy sources.</p>
<p>Cleaning up the terrosist cesspools in Pakistan is a separate long term task that will involve most NATO countries as a result of Afghanistan.</p>
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		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/11/16/npt-wreckage/#comment-387</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Matt,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comment. Sorry I donâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t have time for a longer response, but here are a few points.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;â€”Agreed that the biggest problem with the deal is the bad signal it sends. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;â€”It seems that the study I cited, the Tellis pieces, and Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s long-running thorium project all indicate that there is a tradeoff between Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s military and civilian nuclear programs in a world where New Delhi decides to pursue its energy program on a large scale. Iâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />m not sure thatâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s inconsistent with your comment &#8211; India could probably keep producing plutonium for a while if it   neglected the civilian program.   Iâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />d be interested to see the presentation that you referred to.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;â€”I think itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s reasonable to argue that, due to the point above, that the deal could very well violate Article I of the NPT.  As for the title, I was engaging in a bit of hyperbole, but I think the deal is pretty damaging to the NPT precisely because it rewards India for not signing the NPT.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment. Sorry I donâ€™t have time for a longer response, but here are a few points.</p>
<p>â€”Agreed that the biggest problem with the deal is the bad signal it sends. </p>
<p>â€”It seems that the study I cited, the Tellis pieces, and Indiaâ€™s long-running thorium project all indicate that there is a tradeoff between Indiaâ€™s military and civilian nuclear programs in a world where New Delhi decides to pursue its energy program on a large scale. Iâ€™m not sure thatâ€™s inconsistent with your comment &#8211; India could probably keep producing plutonium for a while if it   neglected the civilian program.   Iâ€™d be interested to see the presentation that you referred to.</p>
<p>â€”I think itâ€™s reasonable to argue that, due to the point above, that the deal could very well violate Article I of the NPT.  As for the title, I was engaging in a bit of hyperbole, but I think the deal is pretty damaging to the NPT precisely because it rewards India for not signing the NPT.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I find it slightly disturbing that some on these forums would see the solution to an unstable and tension-ridden situation (India vs. Pakistan, to cite one example) be one that only intensifies the game. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I wonder if they will cry â€œhypocrisyâ€ when Pakistan and China collude to protect Pakistanâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s â€œsecurityâ€?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it slightly disturbing that some on these forums would see the solution to an unstable and tension-ridden situation (India vs. Pakistan, to cite one example) be one that only intensifies the game. </p>
<p>I wonder if they will cry â€œhypocrisyâ€ when Pakistan and China collude to protect Pakistanâ€™s â€œsecurityâ€?</p>
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		By: Matthew Bunn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I really donâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t think the argument that this deal will help India build a lot more nuclear weapons holds water.  One of the authors of the very report ACA is relying on, Doug Rajaraman, came a  few weeks ago and gave a very good talk pointing out that (a) the fuel requirements for plutonium production are modest; (b) those reactors (CIRUS and Dhruva) will get first claim to available uranium in any case, so that if anything suffers from a lack of uranium, it will likely be the civil program, not the weapon program; (c) the breeder can use depleted uranium and reprocessed uranium, so that additional uranium will not have to be mined for that (and it will be able to produce a good deal of weapons plutonium if desired); so (d) the only scenario in which more weapons plutonium gets produced as a result of greater uranium availability is if India decides it needs to produce FAR more plutonium per year than it ever has before, and for that purpose decides to convert some of the power reactors that will remain unsafeguarded to plutonium production, and decides to run them at low burnups to produce high-grade weapons plutonium (so that they would need more uranium per year).  I think the odds of that happening are very, very slim.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I think the nonproliferation downsides of this deal lie elsewhereâ€”in essence, in sending a message to others that may be considering nuclear weapons (such as Iran) that, after some period of sanctions and resistance, the West may possibly acquiesce (whether or not that would happen, my Iranian colleagues tell me that argument is being raised in Tehran); and sending a broader message about the limited benefits of membership in the regime, if states outside of the regime can get similar benefits.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I think describing the deal as â€œNPT Wreckageâ€ is going WAY too far.  After all, the United States had civilian nuclear cooperation with India, which was outside the NPT, when the NPT was negotiated.  There is no prohibition in the NPT on nuclear cooperation with states outside the treaty.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really donâ€™t think the argument that this deal will help India build a lot more nuclear weapons holds water.  One of the authors of the very report ACA is relying on, Doug Rajaraman, came a  few weeks ago and gave a very good talk pointing out that (a) the fuel requirements for plutonium production are modest; (b) those reactors (CIRUS and Dhruva) will get first claim to available uranium in any case, so that if anything suffers from a lack of uranium, it will likely be the civil program, not the weapon program; (c) the breeder can use depleted uranium and reprocessed uranium, so that additional uranium will not have to be mined for that (and it will be able to produce a good deal of weapons plutonium if desired); so (d) the only scenario in which more weapons plutonium gets produced as a result of greater uranium availability is if India decides it needs to produce FAR more plutonium per year than it ever has before, and for that purpose decides to convert some of the power reactors that will remain unsafeguarded to plutonium production, and decides to run them at low burnups to produce high-grade weapons plutonium (so that they would need more uranium per year).  I think the odds of that happening are very, very slim.</p>
<p>I think the nonproliferation downsides of this deal lie elsewhereâ€”in essence, in sending a message to others that may be considering nuclear weapons (such as Iran) that, after some period of sanctions and resistance, the West may possibly acquiesce (whether or not that would happen, my Iranian colleagues tell me that argument is being raised in Tehran); and sending a broader message about the limited benefits of membership in the regime, if states outside of the regime can get similar benefits.</p>
<p>I think describing the deal as â€œNPT Wreckageâ€ is going WAY too far.  After all, the United States had civilian nuclear cooperation with India, which was outside the NPT, when the NPT was negotiated.  There is no prohibition in the NPT on nuclear cooperation with states outside the treaty.</p>
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		By: AHM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;For those who would like to review the wisdom or folly of their representatives (depending on your perspective), see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&#038;session=2&#038;vote=00270&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senate Roll Call Vote 270 of the 109th Congress, 2nd Session&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;While this is certainly good for India (assuming that this doesnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t lead to China and Pakistan enlarging their arsenals), I challenge the ardent proponents to explain how promoting enlarging Indiaâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s (or anyoneâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s) nuclear arsenal is any good for the rest of the world.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who would like to review the wisdom or folly of their representatives (depending on your perspective), see <a href="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;session=2&amp;vote=00270" rel="nofollow">Senate Roll Call Vote 270 of the 109th Congress, 2nd Session</a> </p>
<p>While this is certainly good for India (assuming that this doesnâ€™t lead to China and Pakistan enlarging their arsenals), I challenge the ardent proponents to explain how promoting enlarging Indiaâ€™s (or anyoneâ€™s) nuclear arsenal is any good for the rest of the world.</p>
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		By: Sudeep		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;We Indians are used to sleeping on beds of nails, what a tiny little thumbscrew or two ?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Indians are used to sleeping on beds of nails, what a tiny little thumbscrew or two ?</p>
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