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		By: hass		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-301</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sorry but there is a great deal of debate over the legality of PSI â€“ even in its present form. THe PSI docs claim that it is consistent with international law however&lt;br /&gt;under Article 110 of the&lt;br /&gt;Law of the Sea Convention the interdiction of vessels is legally only permitted if theyâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />re engaged in five possible&lt;br /&gt;activities, all of which are themselves illegal such as carrying contraband (drug trafficking&lt;br /&gt;on the high seas is prohibited by the 1988 Vienna Convention.) Otherwise interdiction requires the consent of the flag State in international waters. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The US has tried to fit the PSI into international law by dressing it up in the language of international law and later by claiming it constitutes â€œself-defense&quot; but few are buying that. Even some in the US worry that it could just as easily be applied to the US.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Since the PSI is selectively applied to &lt;br /&gt;states which are designated (by whom?)  of â€œproliferation concern&quot; this raises even more doubts that the PSI constitutes a general norm or standard of international law. It is at best a multilateral agreement which is enforceable only among its participants but which is otherwise contrary to international law.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but there is a great deal of debate over the legality of PSI â€“ even in its present form. THe PSI docs claim that it is consistent with international law however<br />under Article 110 of the<br />Law of the Sea Convention the interdiction of vessels is legally only permitted if theyâ€™re engaged in five possible<br />activities, all of which are themselves illegal such as carrying contraband (drug trafficking<br />on the high seas is prohibited by the 1988 Vienna Convention.) Otherwise interdiction requires the consent of the flag State in international waters. </p>
<p>The US has tried to fit the PSI into international law by dressing it up in the language of international law and later by claiming it constitutes â€œself-defense&#8221; but few are buying that. Even some in the US worry that it could just as easily be applied to the US.</p>
<p>Since the PSI is selectively applied to <br />states which are designated (by whom?)  of â€œproliferation concern&#8221; this raises even more doubts that the PSI constitutes a general norm or standard of international law. It is at best a multilateral agreement which is enforceable only among its participants but which is otherwise contrary to international law.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-300</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;RE: Canary on the title.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I think itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s more than fair to include the IAEA in the  list of â€œinstitutions&quot; that Rumsfeld was talking about.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Canary on the title.</p>
<p>I think itâ€™s more than fair to include the IAEA in the  list of â€œinstitutions&#8221; that Rumsfeld was talking about.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-299</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;RE: HAsson PSI:&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;No. The PSI does not empower countries to do anything they couldnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t already do within existing international law.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: HAsson PSI:</p>
<p>No. The PSI does not empower countries to do anything they couldnâ€™t already do within existing international law.</p>
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		By: Canary		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-298</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;With all due respect Paul, I disagree with your statement â€œIt changes nothing about the post.&quot;  The title reads â€œRumsfeld Reports on IAEA.&quot;  He didnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t. I support your contention but the postâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s title is misleading.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect Paul, I disagree with your statement â€œIt changes nothing about the post.&#8221;  The title reads â€œRumsfeld Reports on IAEA.&#8221;  He didnâ€™t. I support your contention but the postâ€™s title is misleading.</p>
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		By: Andy		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think Rumsfeld is actually right on this.  I believe, perhaps wrongly, that the NPT has failed, and will continue to fail, in the post-Cold War world.  We&#8217;ll have to see what the future brings, but I believe that individual nations, now outside the context of a polar world, have much more incentive to proliferate than they did before.  This is partly a result of nationalism, partly the perceived loss of protection from the US/Soviet nuclear umbrella as well as other factors.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Take Japan for example, which has an advanced nuclear program that is capable of supplying fissionable material for nuclear weapons.  Japan could probably weaponize in a matter of months if they so desired.  However, Japan is still under US military protection in many respects, so weapons would not benefit them.  However, if Japanese-US relations soured, and Japan was left on its own to defend itself and its interests against North Korea and China, I think Japan would have to seriously consider a weapons program for deterrence.  As old Cold War alliances and interdependencies change, more countries will consider a nuclear weapon capability to ensure their security against real and perceived threats.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The NPT itself is a problem from a proliferation standpoint. It guarantees access to â€œpeaceful&quot; nuclear technology without defining what is peaceful and what is not.  As we see with Iran, interpretation of the NPT largely comes down to intent â€“ what is a particular countryâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s purpose in pursuing nuclear technology and particularly dual-use technology like enrichment?  This is at the heart of the argument in Iran, with the Iranians insisting their intentions are peaceful and the US and others insisting that they are not.  How is it possible to definitively determine one way or another?  Safeguards agreements are largely useless against a covert program based on technology gained from a civilian program.  Iran was able to hide its so-called â€œcivilian&quot; infrastructure for years.  Once it masters the full fuel cycle, I donâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t have much faith that the current agreement will detect or prevent a covert enrichment program.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Article V is a curious and, in my view, archaic provision of the NPT which allows non-nuclear countries access to peaceful applications of nuclear explosions.  I donâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t how itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s possible to, on one hand, call for complete disarmament (art. VI) while permitting â€œpeaceful&quot; nuclear explosions.  How is one to have peaceful nuclear explosives without having weapons?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Finally, technology has advanced to the point where developing covert programs is easier than during the Cold War.  Although the IAEA has a decent record of monitoring, it didnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t discover the Iraqi EMIS program until after the first Gulf War, and were it not for Libyan cooperation, the extent of AQ Khanâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s proliferation might still be secret today.  Itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s impossible to say if other hidden programs are yet undiscovered, but itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s certainly a possibility, even a probability depending on your faith in the system of safeguards.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;So I would like to see a newer, much stricter NPT, but that is probably a fantasy.  Itâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s doubtful the non-nuclear countries would agree to greater limits on their current rights to nuclear technology.  Unless the NPT is strengthened, however, I fear that we are now seeing the beginning of a downward trend as more countries obtain the capability to develop nuclear weapons along with the desire to possess them.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Rumsfeld is actually right on this.  I believe, perhaps wrongly, that the NPT has failed, and will continue to fail, in the post-Cold War world.  We&#8217;ll have to see what the future brings, but I believe that individual nations, now outside the context of a polar world, have much more incentive to proliferate than they did before.  This is partly a result of nationalism, partly the perceived loss of protection from the US/Soviet nuclear umbrella as well as other factors.</p>
<p>Take Japan for example, which has an advanced nuclear program that is capable of supplying fissionable material for nuclear weapons.  Japan could probably weaponize in a matter of months if they so desired.  However, Japan is still under US military protection in many respects, so weapons would not benefit them.  However, if Japanese-US relations soured, and Japan was left on its own to defend itself and its interests against North Korea and China, I think Japan would have to seriously consider a weapons program for deterrence.  As old Cold War alliances and interdependencies change, more countries will consider a nuclear weapon capability to ensure their security against real and perceived threats.</p>
<p>The NPT itself is a problem from a proliferation standpoint. It guarantees access to â€œpeaceful&#8221; nuclear technology without defining what is peaceful and what is not.  As we see with Iran, interpretation of the NPT largely comes down to intent â€“ what is a particular countryâ€™s purpose in pursuing nuclear technology and particularly dual-use technology like enrichment?  This is at the heart of the argument in Iran, with the Iranians insisting their intentions are peaceful and the US and others insisting that they are not.  How is it possible to definitively determine one way or another?  Safeguards agreements are largely useless against a covert program based on technology gained from a civilian program.  Iran was able to hide its so-called â€œcivilian&#8221; infrastructure for years.  Once it masters the full fuel cycle, I donâ€™t have much faith that the current agreement will detect or prevent a covert enrichment program.</p>
<p>Article V is a curious and, in my view, archaic provision of the NPT which allows non-nuclear countries access to peaceful applications of nuclear explosions.  I donâ€™t how itâ€™s possible to, on one hand, call for complete disarmament (art. VI) while permitting â€œpeaceful&#8221; nuclear explosions.  How is one to have peaceful nuclear explosives without having weapons?</p>
<p>Finally, technology has advanced to the point where developing covert programs is easier than during the Cold War.  Although the IAEA has a decent record of monitoring, it didnâ€™t discover the Iraqi EMIS program until after the first Gulf War, and were it not for Libyan cooperation, the extent of AQ Khanâ€™s proliferation might still be secret today.  Itâ€™s impossible to say if other hidden programs are yet undiscovered, but itâ€™s certainly a possibility, even a probability depending on your faith in the system of safeguards.</p>
<p>So I would like to see a newer, much stricter NPT, but that is probably a fantasy.  Itâ€™s doubtful the non-nuclear countries would agree to greater limits on their current rights to nuclear technology.  Unless the NPT is strengthened, however, I fear that we are now seeing the beginning of a downward trend as more countries obtain the capability to develop nuclear weapons along with the desire to possess them.</p>
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		By: hass		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-296</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;But hasnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t the Bush administration instituted the â€œProliferation Security Initiative&quot; outside of the UN Law of the Sea system to (illegally) interdict  missiles and other â€œwmd-related&quot; material from going to countries we donâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t like on an ad hoc basis?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But hasnâ€™t the Bush administration instituted the â€œProliferation Security Initiative&#8221; outside of the UN Law of the Sea system to (illegally) interdict  missiles and other â€œwmd-related&#8221; material from going to countries we donâ€™t like on an ad hoc basis?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I am aware of that. It changes nothing about the post.  I guess I could have pointed out that the Bush administration can and should do a hell of a lot more to increase the effectiveness of international action/institutions against proliferation.  But I didnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t feel like flogging that dead horse just now.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware of that. It changes nothing about the post.  I guess I could have pointed out that the Bush administration can and should do a hell of a lot more to increase the effectiveness of international action/institutions against proliferation.  But I didnâ€™t feel like flogging that dead horse just now.</p>
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		By: Canary		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-294</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;To be fair, I fail to see where Rumsfeld comments on the IAEA in this report/transcript. I could not find any comment relating to the Agency.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, I fail to see where Rumsfeld comments on the IAEA in this report/transcript. I could not find any comment relating to the Agency.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;...to Congress. (forgot to add that the report on Iran was provided by the State Dept TO CONGRESS)&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Apparently this report is filed by State to Congress regularly. Wonder whatâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s in it.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;to Congress. (forgot to add that the report on Iran was provided by the State Dept TO CONGRESS)</p>
<p>Apparently this report is filed by State to Congress regularly. Wonder whatâ€™s in it.</p>
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		By: jane		</title>
		<link>https://totalwonkerr.net/2006/09/08/rumsfeld-reports-on-iaea/#comment-292</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Things are always interesting with Yemen.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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